Ms Vickie Goes Political | Filed under General
My daddy always told me if you want to keep your friends and stay out of arguments there is two things you do not discuss those are politics and religion. In my eyes when I was a child, there was no one any smarter than my daddy. Even today you still better be very careful what you say for he was pretty smart and is still very special after all he was my daddy. I was his first little angel and could do no wrong, until the day my daddy died I don’t remember him calling me anything but Shug which is short for Sugar. I tell you this because today I am going to peel back another layer of the onion and dip my feet into not water but what could be fire because this will be a political post.
I have always been very proud to be called an American but these days I say it with a little less enthusiasm. Wait before you jump, I support our troops and am so proud of what they are doing for me but I question our government more each day. You are wondering why I can say this well wonder no more just go read for yourself what I read.
BAGHDAD (Reuters) - A month before Iraq holds elections, Washington and the government it backs in Baghdad find themselves battling for credibility, rather than being able to tout progress toward democracy and human rights. Full Article
If that is not enough with Thanksgiving upon us next week there will be so much air traveling, would you like to experience the difficulty of hours trying to board the plane just because you have been placed on the WATCH list? If you want to know more about this and you really should go check here.
O-kay the boxing gloves are on, come on give me your best shot but I’ve got back up. Today you saw another side of Ms. Vickie the Southern Belle.
November 17th, 2005 at 3:07 pm
You’ll get no argument from me. I feel the same way. I fought for the right to express ourselves. Besides our goverenment put Saddam in power. I am totally behind our women and men who are out there. It is just a shame that they are fighting this kind of war. I pray that this war ends soon.
November 17th, 2005 at 4:00 pm
Damn, I’m proud of the new you! It was always there, it’s just that you’ve “come out”.
November 17th, 2005 at 6:21 pm
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I am glad we live in a country where we can voice our opinions. The only time I don’t engage in debates of this nature is when people resort to name-calling and personal attacks. If they can’t debate the issues, then I have no use for them.
I fully support the troops and the war. I am completely behind the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq. I do not wish to become an apathetic nation; that is what the terrorists wish for us. And I don’t believe for one minute the attacks will stop if we were to suddenly withdraw. Bin Laden attempted to blow up the WTC ten years before he accomplished it.
I respect a president who doesn’t cower, but who instead will stand up and fight.
Those are my thoughts, and I’m sure I won’t be very popular for them. S’okay with me.
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November 17th, 2005 at 7:59 pm
Well I sure am glad I found you again, Vickie!
And I’m in complete agreement with you on this one…
I’ll get that list of truffles to you soon!
November 17th, 2005 at 8:15 pm
Wow, that’s a….really slanted article from Reuters. I’d heard they were biased, but man.
1) “Torture bunker” - just because a few of the prisoners showed signs of torture doesn’t mean it was policy of the entire prison. That kind of semantics is equivilant to calling a school were a rape has happened a “rape school”. You can’t sensationalize a few acts into a wholesale characteristic.
2) Phosphurus weapons - article after article keeps asserting they were used just as intended, as tracers and signallers, not as weapons.
November 17th, 2005 at 8:25 pm
Bush and crew got us into a war that wasn’t necessary, wasn’t well-thought out, and they went to war against the political opposition in this country with more fury than they went after Baathists in Baghdad, and then called us unpatriotic when they’re war crimes and torture were exposed to the world. It didn’t have to be that way. Our country has been hijacked by a bunch of pathetic losers who have stolen as much as they can carry and give away, besmirching our good name in the rest of the world in the processs.
We’re not going to win anything in Iraq. We’ve already lost the hearts and minds of its people regardless of who rules there when we leave. Pity the poor Iraqi people. Pity the poor soldier without legs, arms, or sanity after he’s been used up and tossed aside by the war machine. Pity the poor fools that think the crap they’re getting is good leadership from Bush and his outlaws. Pity us for getting screwed in the process.
Pity.
November 17th, 2005 at 8:57 pm
As the mom of a former soldier, I have mixed views about Iraq. My son believed he was right to be there, so I back his belief 100%.
I think this is a great post, Vickie!
And thank you for the prayers for that same young man…his bloodwork came back looking really good!
November 17th, 2005 at 9:34 pm
I feel the same way about my patriotism, Vicki! I am supportive of the men/women to make it safely through and get home asap, but the war itself… it seems it was a personal vendetta by Bush instead of a protection of our country. It feels like we are now open to attacks more than ever. Even attacks from Mother Nature seem to slip by the wayside where the government is concerned.
On another note: I LOVE your new look here! That house is just gorgeous!!
November 17th, 2005 at 10:25 pm
I agree with what your dad taught you. Therefore, I don’t talk politics as I am not well versed.
My prayer is that the war in Iraq is soon over. My heart goes out to all who have and are trying to protect freedom.
No one will ever hear from my lips any negativity for the President of the United States. Not that I think he’s right and/or wrong, but he is our President.
November 18th, 2005 at 12:16 am
How do ya like dem onions kid, I think that line MAY have come from a Marx Bros film, not sure.
Anyway that’s some onion you’re peelin’ there Vickie, go for it girl.
November 18th, 2005 at 2:05 am
I’m not going to argue one bit. I too support our troops. I don’t get into politics because there’s so much corruption and arguments. Freedom of speech is a wonderful thing and each one of us has it.
Terrorism has changed our country and that’s exactly what they wanted to do, but they haven’t beat us.
*HUGS & LOVE*
November 18th, 2005 at 8:25 am
I don’t agree with you BUT when someone speaks from their heart and they are honest it’s never a bad thing.
I’m married to an active duty soldier who will be deployed AGAIN this January and we support our gov’t and we both feel this war is a just one.
You are most definitely entitled to your own opinion and I will respect it.
Oh and I love this new blog of yours and I did update my blogroll. This site looks great!
November 18th, 2005 at 12:10 pm
I met a person recently who lost his beloved younger sister in the World Trade Center. It broke my heart into a million pieces and I can’t get him and his family off my mind.
Just wanted to tell you, don’t ask me why.
November 18th, 2005 at 2:34 pm
You’re not alone. Alot of people are frustrated with America’s reputation these days. Our president led us into a war with a country that really had nothing to do with our going to war in the first place.
I’ve been reading the blog of an Englishman who’s disgusted with the “high and mighty” attitude of the Americans. Are we a successful country? Yeah. Should we romp all over the world trying to play superhero in the name of democracy? No. But, that’s just what our president is leading us to do. Arrogant, arrogant, arrogant.
And now you’ve seen a different side of Tanda, lol.
Seriously, keep writing. It’s great watching you find your voice!
November 19th, 2005 at 12:40 am
Umm. Been there done that with THE rant. I think it made a difference, even though I gave it up for my own sanity. I did not vote for Bush or support the invasions. I do,however, support the troops that are deployed there. Refer to Congress…when they back down, it means somebody is getting honest. Perhaps our elected officials have a conscience after all? That would be a lovely thing to see politicians acting according to the opinions of those who elected them rather than what there is to gain power wise.
November 19th, 2005 at 5:41 pm
An inappropriately long comment. As opposed to your fathers advice, in my family, we regularly talked politics. And oftentimes, during these moments, fists pounded on the table. But, in the end everything was always fine.
I would myself make a difference between Afghanistan and Iraq.
There were clear links between 9/11 and Afghanistan. Therefore, and this effort is ongoing until today, its important to make sure that it is no longer a failed state, that the farmers dont have to grow drugs anymore for their survival and that it is no longer a safe heaven for terrorists. In this sense its about self-defense and fully justified.
Iraq is a different story. There was never evidence of WMD found after the invasion, which means that in fact there was no real imminent attack possible from Iraq and as such pre-emptive action was not authorized under international law (pre-emptive action, meaning that you defend yourself before you have actually been attacked, because you know, and you can prove, that an attack is being staged and imminent). Because this was not the case, the purpose in Iraq was regime change and a preventive war (a war fought by the most powerful nation to stay the most powerful nation). The latter type of war does not qualify under international law as a war with a just cause (jus ad bellum: the right to go to war).
Why abide by international law if you are the most powerful nation? (1) Because you have no guarantee that you will stay the most powerful forever. (2) Because you cannot handle all the problems of the world alone. In this context we can ask why Iran is trying to advance with its development of nuclear weapons as we speak? Is it because they know the US is bogged down in Iraq? (3) Because to everybody else it is not fair. Many have argued by focusing mostly on military might, the US has endured a terrible loss of power. By working with partners and by abiding international law, the US would have kept the respect of the world. Now, there is a lot of anger all over the place.
For the record, I have many American friends, and I worked together with American military, some of who share this view.
November 20th, 2005 at 12:22 am
Listen to Barry. He obviously makes an attempt to get his news from those that seek the truth - not from Reuters whose objectives are painfully obvious.